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  Brain Systems — Gurdjieff’s Concept of Centers in a Man      From: Fourth Way Home School
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This paper discusses the ideas concerning centers and consciousness presented in both P. Ouspensky’s work, The Psychology of Man’s Possible Evolution and lectures by Mr. Gurdjieff reported by Ouspensky in his books, In Search of the Miraculous and The Fourth  Way.

The concept of centers, the field of attention and the wrong work of centers must be understood as a foundation to self-observation.

There will be no apology for starting simply in presenting this subject.  The information in this series of papers on centers, while not painfully difficult to grasp, may seem quite alien even to the well read student of The Fourth Way.

As this more complete model of the idea of centers began to take form, it became clear that some additional structures of a similar nature would be required to fully explain a more complete environment of its working process to these bothersome students.

New concepts were added as they seemed to place themselves into the status of conceptual necessities.

  Food for the Moon  

moon hole“For instance, the evolution of humanity beyond a certain point, or, to speak more correctly, above a certain percentage, would be fatal FOR THE MOON. The moon at present FEEDS on organic life, on humanity.

“Humanity is a part of organic life; this means that humanity is FOOD for the moon. If all men were to become too intelligent they would not want to be eaten by the moon.

“But, at the same time, possibilities of evolution exist, and they may be developed in SEPARATE individuals with the help of appropriate knowledge and methods.”
     – Gurdjieff chapter 3, In Search of the Miraculous

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  Debt of Existence   

From: JG Bennett website – by Ben Hitchner

My experiences with wonderful Teachers, John Bennett and Joseph Rael. Beautiful Painted Arrow contributed to the derivatives of this paper.

Kali Yuga

Kali Yuga from the Hindu knowledge of cosmic cycles has this a dark time of reduced spirituality and progressive materialization.

Civilization especially in the West has rendered an enlightened view of materialism but left obscured the spiritualization of existence.

Revealing information and teachings have now come forth in the crisis of the ending of the Kali Yuga long-term cycle.

  The Mevlevi Path Versus Gurdjieffism  

 Why Gurdjieff's "Fourth Way" Teachings are not Compatible with the Mevlevi Sufi Way

mevlevi-01-xsmby Ibrahim Gamard, 11/6/04, revised 12/3/05 ♦ From: Dar-Al-Masnavi

The Present Confusion

The following article is intended to share information, based on the author's conclusions after studying this subject for many years. Though it may be controversial, the intent is to stimulate respectful discussion — not angry debate. And the aim is certainly not to blame or condemn individuals currently involved practices based on Gurdjieff's teachings. After all, a number of contemporary Mevlevis in Western countries were themselves trained through such teachings to some extent, and report that it was quite helpful in preparing them for the Mevlevi dervish path.

There has been much confusion for decades about the so-called "sufi origins" of Gurdjieff's teachings, beliefs that Gurdjieff himself was a sufi (of the "blame-seeking" [malâmâtî] kind, as some have speculated) and assumptions that the spiritual training he gave to his students was "dervish training" and that the movement exercises he taught were "dervish dance movements."

  Entropy and the Laws of World-creation and World-maintenance       From: Gurdjieff Internet Guide

entropy-sm“In the beginning, when nothing yet existed and when the whole of our Universe was empty endless space ... our Most Great and Most Most Holy Sun Absolute existed alone in all this empty space. . . It was just during this period of the flow of time that there appeared to our Creator All-Maintainer the imperative need to create our now-existing Megalocosmos, that is, our World. . . The Sun Absolute, on which He dwelt with His cherubim and seraphim, was almost imperceptibly, yet steadily, diminishing in volume. As this fact ascertained by Him appeared very serious, He decided to review immediately all the laws which maintained the existence of that still unique cosmic concentration. During this review, it became clear to our Omnipotent Creator for the first time that the cause of this gradual diminishing of the volume of the Sun Absolute was simply the Heropass, that is, the flow of Time itself.”
(Gurdjieff, Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson, Chapter 36, abridged)

  Prerequisites ♦ Conventional Wisdom  
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Who Are These Ideas For?

Gurdjieff's ideas suggest that we do not possess the conscious intelligence we usually
imagine ourselves to have.
      ■ The false assumptions we have about ourselves and our powers are a result of
         social and educational conditioning (and perhaps even cosmic influences).
      ■ This reality has resulted in an inner fragmentation and disconnect from who
         and what we really are and thus, our purpose in life.

Gurdjieff's ideas are addressed to people who continue to search for meaning - as well as question whether or not there is more to life than what their daily life consists.

  The psychology of George Gurdjieff: Implications for counseling     From: Counselling, Psychotherapy and Health
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This paper examines aspects of the teaching of G. I. Gurdjieff in the light of the current knowledge base of contemporary applied psychology, and in particular, that of current counselling theory and practice.  It focusses on enunciating relevant aspects of Gurdjieff’s teaching in the idiom of modern day psychology and counselling theory so as to draw out the parallels between some of the ideas of the major schools of thought in psychology and the coinciding resonances of those same ideas in Gurdjieff’s teaching.

It is argued that there are many such resonances, and given this, there is great potential for a meeting of Gurdjieff’s ideas and counselling practices.  It is further argued that Gurdjieff’s teaching, or at least certain aspects of it, hold the potential to help extend our understanding of many matters of a psychological nature, and thus to give counsellors and psychotherapists new or different understandings of various phenomena of which we have truncated or restricted understandings.  Indeed, some of the possibilities of Gurdjieff’s teaching hold the potential to inform and build on not only our knowledge base in psychology, but also in applying our practices as counsellors with our clients.

  Remember Yourself       From: gapingvoid

remember yourself[Today's guest post comes from Mark McGuinness.]

  • “Remember yourself always and everywhere.”

These words were inscribed on the walls of the study house of the Institute for the Harmonious Development of Man at the Château Le Prieuré, Fontainebleau-Avon, the home of the esoteric teacher George Ivanovitch Gurdjieff. They summarised the essence of his teaching and were written there as a reminder to his students.

Gurdjieff taught that human beings are divided into two parts: Essence and Personality.

  • Essence in man is what is his own. Personality in man is what is ‘not his own.’ ‘Not his own’ means what has come from outside, what he has learned, or reflects, all traces of exterior impressions left in the memory and in the sensations, all words and movements that have been learned, all feelings created by imitation …
  • “Essence is the truth in man; personality is the false. But in proportion as personality grows, essence manifests itself more and more rarely and more and more feebly and it very often happens that essence stops in its growth at a very early age and grows no further.
  • (G.I. Gurdjieff, as reported by P.D. Ouspensky, In Search of the Miraculous)”
  Man Is in a Prison       From: fourth way® gurdjieff ouspensky school

mind prison3When I was younger, for my sins, I spent time locked up in several of Her Majesty's prisons.

In this Work Mr. Gurdjieff and others have often made use of the analogy that Man is in a Prison, of the need to escape his situation and of what realizations and efforts are required.

When I look back upon my experiences of suddenly finding myself in prison – the austere and cramped conditions, the atmosphere and rules and regulations, the loss of what little dignity I had – I am immediately struck by how quickly one adjusts to the alien and hostile environment one finds oneself in.

It immediately becomes normal and acceptable.